Rewrite
I think this page needs to be re-written. In its current form, it appears to tout the great things bots can do for you (even though it say "Do not use bots").
I do not think there is any reason to describe all of the specific types of bots or describe them in any detail. It should be sufficient to define what a bot is and state very clearly what CIP's official stance on the topic is. Any more information than that appears to promote their use.
Unlike Scams, knowing more about a bot does not allow you to counteract their effects or to protect yourself from other players' use of them.
-- in puris naturalibus
-- Whitelaces † Talk † -- 07:57, 12 February 2007 (PST)
I've edited the page my6self for a less-appealing display. feel free to rate it or give me suggestions on how to improve it
Nagatho Goldenflag
Talk Contributions 09:29, 12 February 2007 (PST)
I think we need to combine all forms of Cheating (the current 'cheating' is a redirect to 'Tibia Rules' onto one page, there is both a Cheat Tool page and Bot page on the wiki, Both pages serve the same purpose. --Sixorish 23:31, 25 May 2007 (PDT)
I could add a 'botterkilling'-guide. Is that appropiate on Tibiawiki? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SnowFire (talk • contribs). Remember to sign your comments!
I suppose you mean non pvp style, lure and trap etc.
I don't think this is appropiate as it is some kind of rule violation in the game (destructive behaviour).
Art Featherpitch - The mispseller - Give me a sign of life 14:36, 2 September 2007 (PDT)
- Botter killing guides non pvp are dangerous to make public knowledge as then bots will adapt and make features that make it impossible for us to kill them. Please do not make a non-pvp bot killing guide, just share your knowledge amongst friends.
Craggles
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To the gentlemen suggesting a rewrite, you are absolutely wrong. Knowing how bots function DO allow you to curb their usage. GMs would be a lot better off if they knew what to look for, rather than just PMing people suspected of botting like complete morons.
Secondly, I think this article spits all over the NPOV principle. Wikis are supposed to be informative, not opinionative.
A few parts need to be edited,
Cavebot: using this bot is really dangerous as players do usually kill known Cavebotters, or lure stronger monsters on them (on Non-PvP).
It's illegal to purposely lure something on to someone to kill them in non pvp (not sure if same applies to pvp) - regardless if they're botting or not, two wrongs don't make a right.
Runemaker: - same as above
Aimbot: "This bot is also very popular and is mostly used in wars, when pking someone or on OT's(Open Tibia Servers). They basically aim for you and you will always hit The target, in some cases it even fires for you without you having to do anything!"
not only are these useless nowadays, but it shouldn't sound as if it's a good thing, I believe aimbot should be removed from the page.
Also, OTs are illegal, that needs removing, too.
Other: "Bots get more and more advanced. Some of them will do many kinds of things for you, such as healing you automatically, Make you see through walls and in the early days you could use a .dat editor to move walls!"
I don't think past uses are necessary to mention in the wiki, also editing client is illegal itself.
"they can also perform quests (such as the Annihilator Quest), restoring mana and many more. All of these give an unfair advantage to the player, and therefore are all of them illegal."
It sounds enciting for level 100+ to download bots - should also be removed.
Editing the .dat is illegal, OTs are illegal...I don't think CIP would still support this fansite if it contained such things, it needs a rewrite ASAP. I also think protecting the page would be appropriate to avoid further advertising.
Something like this would suffice for the page:
Bots are automated tools which give an unfair advantage, all types are illegal.
--Sixorish 02:54, 8 October 2007 (PDT)
I was considering rewriting this page, how does this look?
Sixorish
My contributions
Talk page 12:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I think thats a good page, more about fighting botters then showing what is does.
"What you can do today, can also be done tomorrow.:)" - a Dutchie
Ragon Avron | Talk 12:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree, it's a lot better.
Wie niet slim is moet slim zijn
^^ º Bennie º ¤ Talk ¤ ^^ 15:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
--- Outdated, removed (magebomb attack prevention, avoids this being possible): Another sidepoint is this: If you are able to discern the location of the "autologger" before they arrive to that location, you may wait until you are sure that they are afk, and then log in next to them. Most bot software will not respond as quickly to a character that logs in next to it as to one that walks onto the screen and you have an added moment of time to initiate attack before the bot realizes there is another character on the screen.
Under 'Others' the entry was badly typed with many missing words, leading me to believe it was written in another language than English, and then translated to English using some translator. I edited it to reflect at least a knowledge of the English language. - Zerosmoke 21:36, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
Players can report botters directly to Customer Support
This page needs to be updated according to the changes made by the May 5th 2010's Update.
LN.S Team 23:35, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
Add a not about this?
http://tibianews.net/component/content/article/4-article/1007
I'm astonished, not only cip allows lure killing on optional pvp, now they punish bot killing with methods that wouldn't kill humans, shouldn't it be backwards?
Anyway, you think is a good idea to add a note so people don't get unfairly banned by killing bots?
I ask instead of add the info because my opinion is not very objective about Cip decisions that I consider stupid and lame.
--Daniel Letalis 12:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
Luring with intent to kill somebody has been against the rules for a very long time on optional/non- PvP. I agree in some part that it is unfair that botters are considered with equality when this rule is concerned but I suppose it's the principle that counts: if you kill someone, others will think it's fine to do so.
Personally though, I don't consider it illegal. In fact, I would support the killing of botters, if anything. Nobody gets banned for doing the act per se. Rather, they are punished for admitting to it. The rule is mostly unenforceable if people keep quiet about the act.
I think it should be mentioned, but I'd suggest a note that the rule is hard or impossible to enforce in the current state of the game. -- Sixorish 04:37, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure if u think lure is illegal but just to clarify, luring is not illegal anymore since the rules changes. --Daniel Letalis 13:48, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I apparently am outdated when it comes to the rules. I have seen some of those videos of his and they appear to have been some updates ago when the destructive behavior rule was in existence. I don't know if that would apply since it was illegal when he did it. By the way, did you see the associated TibiaNews forum post? Apparently his banishment was lifted some days after. His post on the Tibia forums indicate that he was compensated for his injustified banishment.
So apparently it was a misunderstanding, that has now been corrected? -- Sixorish 21:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
After killing several botters on Amera, and studying their vulnerabilities, I've added another to the list of ways to stop/kill a botter. This last vulnerability can render the bot completely useless, and seems to be the most useful of all 4 at the moment. Zerosmoke 21:52, September 21, 2011 (UTC)Zerosmoke
They don't care a bit about the botters.
They don't ban botters because they buy a lot of premium scrolls, some of them have 3+ accounts multiclienting to farm money while they play on their main, all accounts with premium time, and never get banned.
If you think about it, they made many changes to help botters with recent updates, such as making pots walkable, removing roping of monsters, the removal of multiclienting from rule violations, the removal of gamemasters, the selling of premium scrolls through the market, many new botting areas such as coryms, etc, world transfers...
I have 10+ botter reports pending, some of them gained 50+ levels since I reported them and still didn't saw them get banned.
All I know is that I regret paying them premium to not being able to hunt without 3+ botters stealing my monsters, and I'm never going to pay premium until I see real action.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Master Smoke (talk • contribs). Remember to sign your comments!
I'm not sure why you're posting this story here.. CipSoft does not read this and nobody in the TibiaWiki community can influence Cipsoft's policies. Maybe you should rather complain on the tibia.com forums or some other fansite where there is a community willing to discuss this topic? -- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 09:55, October 21, 2013 (UTC)